Ed admitted that he was "a loser" in high school, because he was always practicing guitar. Howard brought up, though, that both Ed and Joel were good-looking and that they could've gotten women even if they weren't musicians. Howard then wondered if Ed ever picked out a girl he wanted to "meet" from the crowd at one of his Collective Soul concerts, which was how Pat and Amber met two years ago. Ed told Howard that he did that once and that "it ended up in a divorce." Ed went on to acknowledge that he didn't have a prenup with his ex-wife and that he had to pay her quite a bit of money when their marriage ended.