Howard took a call from Curtis, who used to be on Riley Martin's show until he and Riley had a falling out.
Curtis explained that he felt Riley's notoriety "went to his head," which was why he was let go, even though he also acknowledged he still believed in Riley's claims about aliens.
Curtis then noted he acted as Riley's producer during his time on the program, but that Riley got "nasty" when Howard started making him such a major part of his show. To combat Curtis' claims, Riley got on the line and claimed Curtis was stealing money from the sales of his book, "The Coming of Tan," an allegation Curtis denied.
In fact, Curtis said he "nearly went bankrupt" funding Riley's book, and that it wasn't until Riley made his first appearance on Howard's show in 1996 that it sold any copies at all. Riley responded to Curtis' story, though, by pointing out Curtis was able to afford a home and a car while he hadn't seen "a dime" from the book. When Howard suggested Riley "do an audit," Riley said Curtis wouldn't allow him to do so.
As Riley and Curtis continued to argue about the book and its earnings, Howard acknowledged he understood why the two had a falling out.
Curtis then reported that, in 12 years, he'd sold fewer than 4,000 copies of "The Coming of Tan," and that he made $20 in profit from every book he sold. When Artie commented that meant Curtis earned $80,000 from the book, Curtis responded by explaining most of that money went to paying for expenses he incurred in publishing the book. This led Riley to note he never expected to become rich from his book, but that he still wanted to get some money from it.