Shuli and Ronnie were arguing in the hall outside the studio, so Howard had them both come in to explain themselves. Shuli said it started because he doubted Ronnie was as taller than him.
Howard had them both take off their shoes and stand back to back. Fred, who had the best view, announced: "Shuli is taller!" Ronnie blew up at Shuli: "You start shit every time you're around! I can't stand this motherf'er! He's such an asshole." Sal then came in to measure Ronnie and claimed he was two and a half feet tall. Ronnie was pissed: "I could f'ing kill somebody today...you're f'ing dead! I'll f'ing kill you! I swear to god."