Norm said he never wanted to be a star ("I'm not a furnace of ambition.") or accrue wealth: "I have a 118 [thousand] or something." His goal was just to meet his idols: "My dream was to get on the David Letterman show." Norm then introduced his friend Kevin Farley (Chris Farley's little brother), who explained that Norm was his stand-up mentor: "I've been going out and warming up the audience for Norm." Norm said Kevin was a challenge: "He does all this f'ing [gay] improv shit and I had to get that out of his system, you know?"