Jason said a lot of his issues stemmed from childhood abuse. "Somebody made me suck their dick when I was 5," he told Howard during his interview. Jason said he had a lot of evidence that the "somebody" in this case was his grandfather. "He [later] became a cross-dresser," Jason said of his grandfather. "I know my father. If a dude made me suck his dick, he's dead. That's the end of it. The only way he wouldn't be dead? Is if it was my grandfather."
With Jason's permission, Gary tried to get Jason's grandfather on the phone to confirm, but the number had been disconnected.